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	<title>Comments on: Earth Class Mail takes $13.3M to turn snail mail to e-mail</title>
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		<title>By: sf94127</title>
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		<dc:creator>sf94127</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the status of of ECM?

In these hard times their service is discretionary to say the least.

I never bought into the concept. The reality show was OK.
No surprise, everyone in marketing got canned! Natalee is a smart woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the status of of ECM?</p>
<p>In these hard times their service is discretionary to say the least.</p>
<p>I never bought into the concept. The reality show was OK.<br />
No surprise, everyone in marketing got canned! Natalee is a smart woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ECM offers an amazing service and although they don&#039;t sell you on the 10$/physical shipment price they certainly do deliver on everything they advertise.  I wish I had thought of it myself.

It really depends on what you use the service for whether you will like it or not.  I travel a great deal and have employees spread all over the country.  This is the perfect service since we can all share the same address and still receive our mail.  No more paying someone to scan our mail.  Sure mail takes some longer to show up because it must be scanned and some longer because you confirm whether you want the contents scanned.  What you are not pointing out is that you have the choice to auto-scan all items that show up for you.  This reduces the waiting time greatly.

ECM isn&#039;t for everyone but I have a hard time believing that they&#039;ll fold and go under.  They may not replace all post office boxes but they certainly won&#039;t go out of business.  They&#039;ve completed the final step in creating our paperless office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECM offers an amazing service and although they don&#8217;t sell you on the 10$/physical shipment price they certainly do deliver on everything they advertise.  I wish I had thought of it myself.</p>
<p>It really depends on what you use the service for whether you will like it or not.  I travel a great deal and have employees spread all over the country.  This is the perfect service since we can all share the same address and still receive our mail.  No more paying someone to scan our mail.  Sure mail takes some longer to show up because it must be scanned and some longer because you confirm whether you want the contents scanned.  What you are not pointing out is that you have the choice to auto-scan all items that show up for you.  This reduces the waiting time greatly.</p>
<p>ECM isn&#8217;t for everyone but I have a hard time believing that they&#8217;ll fold and go under.  They may not replace all post office boxes but they certainly won&#8217;t go out of business.  They&#8217;ve completed the final step in creating our paperless office.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Fell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Fell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently signed up for Earth Class Mail but had to cancel. Their service simply does not deliver like thier promotions say it will. It took my mail receipt time from 3 days to 3 weeks+ and does NOT offer check cashing except to premium members who use only Wells Fargo for banking. I hated it and cancelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently signed up for Earth Class Mail but had to cancel. Their service simply does not deliver like thier promotions say it will. It took my mail receipt time from 3 days to 3 weeks+ and does NOT offer check cashing except to premium members who use only Wells Fargo for banking. I hated it and cancelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Friedrichsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Friedrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo gobytrain&#039;s comments.  One thing ECM doesn’t tell you up front is that it costs at least $10 per shipment to have a piece of your mail physically delivered to you, even if it’s a single envelope!  They insist on using only expensive couriers like DHL, FedEx, or UPS.  Thus, unless you can afford to wait weeks or months for your mail to accumulate so you can ship it in bulk, you end up paying at least $10 (probably more on the East Coast or abroad) to physically receive your critical mail.

ECM is clearly targeting customers who can get away with reading their mail online and rarely or never need to physically receive it.  In my case, I need to physically receive a handful of letters per month (legal documents, for instance), so unless I’m willing to wait until the end of the month to get these (which is difficult, since some of them are timely), I have to pay as much as $50/month extra to physically receive them.  Other services forward mail through the USPS for as little as $2-3/item.  ECM needs to do likewise.

I didn’t find out about this limitation until I received my first critical piece of mail.  I was forced to pay $10 to ship that piece of mail, but thereafter, I immediately asked ECM to cancel my account ... which they promptly did, but they neglected to tell me until the account was actually canceled that they would not be refunding any of the months I had already paid in advance.  Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo gobytrain&#8217;s comments.  One thing ECM doesn’t tell you up front is that it costs at least $10 per shipment to have a piece of your mail physically delivered to you, even if it’s a single envelope!  They insist on using only expensive couriers like DHL, FedEx, or UPS.  Thus, unless you can afford to wait weeks or months for your mail to accumulate so you can ship it in bulk, you end up paying at least $10 (probably more on the East Coast or abroad) to physically receive your critical mail.</p>
<p>ECM is clearly targeting customers who can get away with reading their mail online and rarely or never need to physically receive it.  In my case, I need to physically receive a handful of letters per month (legal documents, for instance), so unless I’m willing to wait until the end of the month to get these (which is difficult, since some of them are timely), I have to pay as much as $50/month extra to physically receive them.  Other services forward mail through the USPS for as little as $2-3/item.  ECM needs to do likewise.</p>
<p>I didn’t find out about this limitation until I received my first critical piece of mail.  I was forced to pay $10 to ship that piece of mail, but thereafter, I immediately asked ECM to cancel my account &#8230; which they promptly did, but they neglected to tell me until the account was actually canceled that they would not be refunding any of the months I had already paid in advance.  Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: DavoRider</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavoRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched the series on Hulu.  Interesting concept, and they are certainly developing some IP around digitizing postal mail, which may have some long term value, but I&#039;m not sure how big the consumer market is.

The sales engineer &quot;Nate&quot; reminds me of Andy Bernard from The Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the series on Hulu.  Interesting concept, and they are certainly developing some IP around digitizing postal mail, which may have some long term value, but I&#8217;m not sure how big the consumer market is.</p>
<p>The sales engineer &#8220;Nate&#8221; reminds me of Andy Bernard from The Office.</p>
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		<title>By: clickbot</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 09:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw the startup junkies episodes.  There are some fascinating tidbits showing how they mismanage their adwords account (in one case thru a third-party marketer).  I wonder how many other companies are throwing money down the drain with adwords in this fashion?  

It seems like they have *way* too many staff/VPs for what they are trying to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the startup junkies episodes.  There are some fascinating tidbits showing how they mismanage their adwords account (in one case thru a third-party marketer).  I wonder how many other companies are throwing money down the drain with adwords in this fashion?  </p>
<p>It seems like they have *way* too many staff/VPs for what they are trying to do.</p>
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		<title>By: cashed</title>
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		<dc:creator>cashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your talking about Earth class right?

Private Box hasnt charged me for any extra letters that I receive. I can receive 10 or 100 letters and i only get charged for forwarding my letters by weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your talking about Earth class right?</p>
<p>Private Box hasnt charged me for any extra letters that I receive. I can receive 10 or 100 letters and i only get charged for forwarding my letters by weight.</p>
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		<title>By: gobytrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>gobytrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using this service for almost a year. I can tell you that it doesn&#039;t work.  It causes more problems then it solves. It&#039;s slow, for starters, it&#039;s too expensive (if you get 100 letters a month you need to get the $60/month plan, that&#039;s about 3 items a day, which is nothing), and that&#039;s just for starters.  

Also, it confuses people.  They don&#039;t see it as a PO box so it always confuses anyone you talk to (like the bank) which is a big problem.  

Worse of all, they&#039;re customer service SUCKS! They really don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing.  I hate it and am in the process of canceling my services (both business and personal) with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using this service for almost a year. I can tell you that it doesn&#8217;t work.  It causes more problems then it solves. It&#8217;s slow, for starters, it&#8217;s too expensive (if you get 100 letters a month you need to get the $60/month plan, that&#8217;s about 3 items a day, which is nothing), and that&#8217;s just for starters.  </p>
<p>Also, it confuses people.  They don&#8217;t see it as a PO box so it always confuses anyone you talk to (like the bank) which is a big problem.  </p>
<p>Worse of all, they&#8217;re customer service SUCKS! They really don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing.  I hate it and am in the process of canceling my services (both business and personal) with them.</p>
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		<title>By: casshed</title>
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		<dc:creator>casshed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried a similar site http://www.privatebox.co.nz?
They have a similar service and you can read the mail online! Its great if you are more concerned for your privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried a similar site <a href="http://www.privatebox.co.nz?" rel="nofollow">http://www.privatebox.co.nz?</a><br />
They have a similar service and you can read the mail online! Its great if you are more concerned for your privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watching the show...

These guys are dreamers....

The breakeven on their model makes it almost impossible to make money...

I agree with the previous posts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watching the show&#8230;</p>
<p>These guys are dreamers&#8230;.</p>
<p>The breakeven on their model makes it almost impossible to make money&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with the previous posts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Unreal.  Ron Wiener is full of BS.  There is no way this is going to fly.  The people that invest in this company will lose everything.  Ron Wiener is hoping some fool will come along and offer him big money for the company.    It will not happen.  If you watch the program you will see that these people are all talking about becoming millionaires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Unreal.  Ron Wiener is full of BS.  There is no way this is going to fly.  The people that invest in this company will lose everything.  Ron Wiener is hoping some fool will come along and offer him big money for the company.    It will not happen.  If you watch the program you will see that these people are all talking about becoming millionaires.</p>
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		<title>By: Unreal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#99097Posted by unregistered user at 2/16/08 12:09 a.m.

I just happened to watch an episode of startup junkies and there it was - earth class mail. Although informative and somewhat entertaining I have to wonder, where do these venture capitalists come from, mars? Using the postal service as an example of the profit potential is way out there - a total apples to oranges comparison. By airing your startup on cable you showed just how unprofessional and foolish your operation is. And when I went to your website and saw that a personal account costs $10 per month I realized that Mr. Weener and his yes men and women are desperate.

I for one would not want anyone stuck in a room with no human contact going through my or my company&#039;s mail!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#99097Posted by unregistered user at 2/16/08 12:09 a.m.</p>
<p>I just happened to watch an episode of startup junkies and there it was &#8211; earth class mail. Although informative and somewhat entertaining I have to wonder, where do these venture capitalists come from, mars? Using the postal service as an example of the profit potential is way out there &#8211; a total apples to oranges comparison. By airing your startup on cable you showed just how unprofessional and foolish your operation is. And when I went to your website and saw that a personal account costs $10 per month I realized that Mr. Weener and his yes men and women are desperate.</p>
<p>I for one would not want anyone stuck in a room with no human contact going through my or my company&#8217;s mail!</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; MOJO HD&#8217;s shows for finance types</title>
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		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; MOJO HD&#8217;s shows for finance types</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VentureBeat has already published the spoiler: The Seattle company recently raised $13.3 million from Ignition Partners and the Keiretsu Forum, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Seattle Startups Takes $13.3M &#171; nPost Startup Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seattle Startups Takes $13.3M &#171; nPost Startup Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Startups Takes&#160;$13.3M  Looking to kill snail mail, Earth Class Mail takes big investment.  I am guessing it will take a bit more [...]</description>
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